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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 18, 2012 8:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

WhaaaaaaAAAAAAAAT?!? You don't get St Stephen?!?

Is that possible? No no, you must be running a test here, to see if people explode ...

does not compute
does not compute

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 18, 2012 9:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

I just exploded AR. BOOOOM!

nod to
nod fro
nod to
nod fro
nod to
slump...

hair so long ~~~~~~~~~~~~ uuuhhhhhhhhg
You might have to use your own Charlie Brown puking gif.

I hope WT isnt reading this. please let him have the day off

'what i am missing that would make me think it is more than a good song'
Um, the time signatures, key signatures,
the melody, the harmony, the lyrics, Donna (for the good ones) the meaning. I dont know what else to give ya man :)

I stand by AR, with my mouth wide open...in disbe-whaaaaaa?
(that might not have come out right, but you know what I mean...) Me thinks the elbows name hath been stolen.

Seems all this life was just a dream

"actually i am now singing along with the hair so long lyrics. I think it is an improvement! "
~
Thank goodness you are coming around. Coming, Coming, Coming around . Comingaround ya'll now...Comin Comin...Coming around ComonA. ComonA. Coming around.... Coming arou-Hound!!

edit~ luckily, I love every GD song. Its a blanket policy.
Even the crappiest of the crappiest.....gimme.

This post was modified by craven714 on 2012-09-18 16:52:16

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 18, 2012 10:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

No its me, no name stolen.

I think it comes back to the definition of overrated. I did say i like the song and that i even sing along with inaccurate lyrics. If Cliff can put 2-26-77 in his top 10 shows for '77 and also call it overrated then i think I can like St. Stephen and also call it overrated. I think calling a song you like overrated is a far more accurate assessment than calling something overrated because its not a good song (bad Bob blues covers) or you simply don't like the song. Of course this all assumes that there is some official rating of all GD songs. Maybe we need such a thing. Calling LIA......

You love Samba in the Rain? You are a better head than I.....

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 18, 2012 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

overrated, shmo-verrated... as long as Im rich ~ Daffy Duck

No, I get you man. Its all subjective. I just like the
fact that your points have meaning, and made me laugh at the
same time (in no disrespect). And its not to say that I
wont skip a Bobby cowboy, or blues tunes: I dont know how
anyone could listen to him 'learn' slide guitar in front of
thousands of people in the early 80s til now (ouch).
It just means that I dont~ NOT like it.

and yes, I can listen to Samba AND Corrina in the same night
and not get sick. Even the worst version of a song or show,
broken string, or broken lyric, is at least good for a laugh. And thats fine with me.

To itch your own my good man :)
Now, Im gonna Google "better head" and see what comes up...

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Poster: snori Date: Sep 18, 2012 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

I was going to add that I don't care much for the cowboy songs, but on reflection it's MAMU and El Paso that I don't enjoy. Overrated or overplayed ? Probably the latter, but I have no problem with Mexicala or Big River (does that count as a 'cowboy tune ?)

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 18, 2012 8:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

Well i thought i understood it until you ruined my favorite line, "hair so long he got to calling it home."

What about it is so great? Tell me what i am missing that would make me think it is more than a good song.

I will say that i definitely like the '68 and '69 versions best. As the song slowed down (i think this started by '70) and became a waltz (i'm looking at you 1977) it musically does very little for me. Even in '68 and '69 when it was sandwiched between DS and The Eleven, I much preferred the bread over the meat in that sandwich. I will say that little dab of WT was kind of nice though.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 18, 2012 8:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

Well, maybe that it’s evocative of a kind of visionary raggedy back-to-the-garden wildness that is transcendental, tribal, and quintessentially “free”? That it gets to the core of something that is grounded and rooted, yet also timeless …

Sorry about your favorite line, though :-)

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Sep 18, 2012 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

Yes i think i speculated that it is so popular because it is an anthem of psychedelia. Perhaps an anthem of hippidom would have been more accurate. Still it makes it a curious pick because i suspect that most of the other songs that reside in the pantheon of Grateful Dead tunes, are there primarily because of the music not the lyrics. This would seem to be the exception.

actually i am now singing along with the hair so long lyrics. I think it is an improvement!

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Sep 18, 2012 8:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

To me what happens musically is part and parcel of what happens lyrically, which I think is always the case with the best GD music. (Well, the best that HAS lyrics, anyway.) But I think the poetic tone and evocativeness of StSt is not actually primarily about the lyrics per se. It connects, and like I said, it's always part and parcel -- I mean, the same music with the lyrics of Cream Puff War wouldn't have the same impact (duh) -- but the lyrics themselves, while poetic, aren't their "strongest."

Now if I can also get you to see that the true lyrics of TOO go "love is, love is, love is all around ..."

Isn't that even better? :-)

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Sep 18, 2012 8:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: here goes nothing!!

Agree with you... more interesting for musical "change-ups". For me me it's the set-up for the fastball to come - a ripping Eleven. The latter versions of StSt were just ponderous.

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